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Extracts From the Inside History of the Ecclesiastical Troubles and Divisions in England

by Julius Anton von Poseck




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Tom said ...

Fascinating document, unfortunately a few pages missing.

P15, have I misread it, or is he really comparing JND with Moses in this way?! 

Just like Moses he also failed, but his failure in its consequences had been fraught with far more disaster to the people of God than the failure of Moses had been.

Later on JB Stoney,

I will relate here that when Mr. Stoney tried to convert me to Infant Baptism through the means of an artificial construction of sophistry, I replied to him : there are four words which would knock down your artificial fabric. He asked what these four words were,  and I answered : “ It is not written ! ” “ Never in my life have I seen such a man,” exclaimed Mr. B. Stoney, “who wants the Word of God for everything ! ” I asked him whether it was probable God should expect from the simple and the unlearned among His child ren that they should know anything to be His will, which they would have to guess through an artificial construction of logical conclusions (so called). If it were His will that infants should be baptized, would he not have said it in His Word. The many props you need to keep your system upright, only show that it must be a tottering fabric, for otherwise you should have need of no other props than the three words: “ It is written.” Thereupon he re plied to me by another long chain of artificial conclusions, continu ing without awaiting my answer and hastily adding: Are you floored now? Where is my taper? Good night. 

Wednesday, Oct 30, 2024 : 17:39
Syd said ...
Von Poseck may have been quite right about what he exposed according to personal knowledge. But did he relate this account with some pride and glee? He rightly argues against parties but seemed to engender a party spirit himself. He does state facts, but he “sets the scene” for his hearers. I was a little disappointed. He has other good writings on STEM Publishing.

Now he does equate Darby to Moses but surely this is somewhat fallacious and misplaced. Moses, that great, meek servant of God, was guilty of disobedience and denying God the glory due to Him before all the people. That was his fault and the Lord dealt with him. What disaster did this cause to the people? Yes, he was forbidden personal entrance into the promised land. Von Poseck now reasons that the consequences of Darby’s failure was that he would not be alive and remain at the Lord’s coming! Whatever Darby’s failures, or anyone else’s for that matter, there will be consequences, both personal and relational, but that must be judged in its correct context.
Wednesday, Oct 30, 2024 : 22:52
Joshua said ...
Is this from the Pontis' Scrap book?
Wednesday, Oct 30, 2024 : 23:23
Tom said ...
@Joshua .. yes, though the pamphlet which has been inserted was clearly published seperately.
Thursday, Oct 31, 2024 : 00:53
Joshua said ...
Thank you.
Saturday, Nov 2, 2024 : 06:55
Jonathan S said ...
I may be being generous to JAvP, but on P15 I understand him to be writing in the voice of Darby's 'particular admirers' who he references at the top of the page - from whom I think he is setting himself a little apart - and it is they who would liken him to Moses.
Friday, Nov 29, 2024 : 19:22


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